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Noah died when he was 950 Noah went onto the ark when he was 600. Noah stepped off the ark when he was 601. Noah had children when he was 500. Excuse me, but I didn't know humans could live for almost 1000 years! This is what I am being taught at school. Somehow it just doesn't seem right to me. Noah didnt live for that long!!! AND HOW DID THE ANIMALS LIVE ON THE ARK FOR ALMOST A YEAR!! It must have been big.. And cosy I am confused.  
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 Mar 25 2007, 12:10 AM
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wasnt it 40 days and 40 nights or something?
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It rained for 40 days and 40 nights, but it took a year for the world to dry up so people could live on it.
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Everyone knows that the torah/bible/kuran/whatever the fuck you want to call it is a bunch of bullshit and lies. They're FABLES designed to teach lessons of proper moral behaviour. It's not fact. It's FICTION. To believe in it is just bullshit.
... There is no god.
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QUOTE (Lily @ Mar 25 2007, 10:31 AM)  Did you know that according to the Bible.. Noah died when he was 950 Noah went onto the ark when he was 600. Noah stepped off the ark when he was 601. Noah had children when he was 500. Excuse me. But I didnt know humans could live for almost 1000 years. This is what I am being taught in Religion at school. Somehow it just doesnt seem right to me. Noah didnt live for that long!!! AND HOW DID THE ANIMALS LIVE ON THE ARK FOR ALMOST A YEAR!! It must have been big.. And cosy I am confused. 1. its phesable that Noah could turn one year older on a boat. That doesnt necessarily mean that he spent a year on a boat. For example. A friend of mine will turn 18 on a hike that we are doing in 2 weeks BUT.. the hike is only 4 days. 2. they have different year lengths. some people are still running by this time. The measurement of time hasn't always been the same for many millenia so it is feasable that he could be 950 years old in THAT measurement. its like "dog" years or "cat" years. different measurements- different length of time. 3. People and animals lived on ships for over 6 months at a time without stopping. remember the convicts? how do you think we got here? noah and his animals spending that amount of time on a ship is feasable (especially if it is in the old measurement of time that they ran by.
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When you disbelieve anything in the bible, thats the devil talking. also Jews buried fake dinosaur bones so everyone wouldnt believe that the earth is only 4000 years old, from when god made the universe in 7 days, and once again, if you disagree with anything i say, it's the devil talking. Consider yourself lucky this isn't the old days, we would torture and burn you to cleanse your soul of the devil, i know this because i am also 1000 years old.
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but do you really know that they are false insainekilla?
Christianity is the religion backed up by the most historical evidence out of all the religions. they just currently found a burried civilisation under the red sea ( i think that's where it was). Many of the events in the bible are also followed by historical evidence such as documents written by scholors hundreds of years ago. Another is that the bible is written by many different authors who lived in different time periods: Jesus, Joshua, Daniel, John, Moses all lived at different times. Also what is really amazing is that there are no real contradictions in the bible (except about providing offerings to God, because that changed when Jesus came and died to save humanity from out sins). This post has been edited by chicken wing: Mar 25 2007, 04:14 AM
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ok some proven examples on how we know the bible isnt correct, jesus was not born on the 25th of december, proven with the romans cencus records we know that jesus was born some time in august, it was also calculated using the bible that acording to the bible the earth was created in 4004 BCE, although proven with radioactive decay of rocks amoung other things it has been calulated that the earth was created 4.5 billion years ago
Satan was origanly a word to discribe some one who qustions, coincidence that now its considerd the root of all evil??? *insert zombie quote here*
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If any religion could be proven, im pretty sure it would be a doctrine and a way of life. However all religions require faith, something that is very lacking in the newer generations, basically scientific advancement has made religion look stupid so people without faith scoff at it. If people have faith don't hold it against them but also just because i don't doesn't mean you can come knocking on my door telling me i need to accept Jesus, how about you accept your daughter takes it in the butt so she's still a virgin when she gets married.
wow total rant mode.
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Ok first of all... Noah's Ark is not meant to be a true story... it's not meant to be taken word for word, there's a lesson in it. On top of that... I distinctly remember having this conversation somewhere on these forums that the Jesus, despite not being born on the 25th of December - has no relevance in determining the accuracy of Christianity. The bible does not mention his birth date. Scholars and religious folk decided this was the date it would be celebrated...regardless of whether or not it is the actual date. And the Bible itself is not an accurate timeline... you could not accurately gauge how old the earth is from it... the person calculating it was making a feeble attempt to discredit the religion.
How do we know that the bible is wrong? There isn't a way - it doesn't actually contradict itself, even in the example given by chicken wing. This isn't a contradiction. Jesus made it clear it was to be changed, this is a misunderstanding. How is that a contradiction? The bible didn't go back on it's word. Jesus changed a tradition, and continues to do so - hence why we have Jews and Christians. And Satan - isn't the world used to describe the devil in the bible. I believe it was Beezlebul or something hideous like that.
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You simply can not take the story of Noah's Ark literally, maybe it is a very embellished story of a crazy guy who built a boat (for what ever reason, deity involved or not) and then a flood came. But to round up every species of animal on the planet, it's just not possible. Just think of these few points:
On a not I find interesting, why do RE teachers always teach this story when it brings up so many logical flaws? It was this story which made me stop attending RE.
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yawn, my post sums up this situation better than any of your rambling biased opinions.
thank you. i contribute it to your addiction to arguing, you can't just let someone with an opinion other than yours slide you dont want to comment about it, you HAVE to. This post has been edited by Kelevra: Mar 25 2007, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (kiki @ Mar 25 2007, 06:50 PM) And the Bible itself is not an accurate timeline... you could not accurately gauge how old the earth is from it... the person calculating it was making a feeble attempt to discredit the religion. attaclly, it does give a date, as described in the book of Genesis. and it was origanly done by "holy people", infact aprently they know the date and time that creationism occured. and as for a feeble attempt to discredit the religion, it was origanaly translated by jewish people and later christian people hundreds of years ago. also the problem with saying 'it's not meant to be taken word for word' is it is supposed to be taken word for word, you recon 500 years ago if i said to the pope, yeah its just a story man chill out, he wouldnt chop my head off, i mean look at ned flanders from the simpsons, classic example. there is nothing wrong with religion as long as its not forcing its veiws on another, if the bible is taken as a story with good morels thats great, cause it has some good morels, it also has some bad morels, but mostly good. All im saying is alot of people across the globe beleive texts like this and others as if they were 100% truth, and that only leads to pain and suffering. vote now on propistion 666 for zombie equality!!!
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I asked my religion teacher back in year 4 the same question as you posed lily, how the fuck did moses live to eleventy billion years old?
her reply - "there were less diseases back then" Urm, hello, people live to around 80-90 and not everyone dies from diseases!
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err...didnt people back then have a much shorter lifespan than they do now due to diseases, nutrition and lifestyle?
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Geez, you're all just overreacting.
It's god. The father of creation. Why would he mislead you? =) *explodes* mmm, I'm gonna have to agree with the whole god's a load of crap, but everyone to their own religion. "Miracles", they call it, and hey, if you're cool with believing that someone spoke to a burning bush, and that they split a huge ocean with a stick, and then, turned that very same ocean into a pool of blood, then, go right ahead - it's something to believe in. "Faith". Whatever. Sometimes, people just need something to believe in.
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QUOTE (prostitot @ Mar 25 2007, 11:45 PM) Sometimes, people just need something to believe in. That is a really good quote
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and not original either sam.
traditional church values and beliefs aren;t necessarily relevant today. i mean back in my parents day - they were made to believe that cain and abel... offspring of adam and eve were responsible for producing the human race, incest much? just because the church took what was not meant to be a literal story, as one... doesn;t make the story a literal one. you can't view the bible through a religion, when you don't viewing it through a religion you'll find its one of most resourceful pieces when it comes to studying history, it holds so much more than any other historical document in the world. and its also a reliable source as well, many things can be verified by other sources. for example, the fact that jesus did exist as a man of many great things and mysterious happenings - is verified by an objective and reliable..josephus 
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ew incest
you have a point
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i named my iPod jesus but it died.
so now i have Jesus II.
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