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Sam
QUOTE (Kelevra @ Mar 26 2007, 08:13 PM) *
Of course i meant the whole population, just like how when you say men are pigs, you mean every man in the population.


funny ive never said that and most of my friends are guys
kimbanator
QUOTE (prostitot @ Mar 25 2007, 11:07 PM) *
How totally Moulin Rouge of you:
Unconditionally.
The second you tell somebody you love them, whether romantically or not, then that has to stick. No matter what, through thick and thin, it's love.

Until you fall out of love, in which case, one must ask themselves, was it love to begin with?


I agree. I also say that Kelvra knows nothing about the women and shouldnt make assumptions. Because I bet he doesnt know either....
Kelevra
QUOTE (kimbanator @ Mar 27 2007, 06:15 PM) *
I agree. I also say that Kelvra knows nothing about the women and shouldnt make assumptions. Because I bet he doesnt know either....



leave it to a woman to contradict herself so very blatently.... in the same sentence.
Sam
Kelevra as far as i know im not like that
Kelevra
QUOTE (Sam @ Mar 27 2007, 10:12 PM) *
Kelevra as far as i know im not like that

yeah i get that, and i was wrong for making a blanket statement like that.
yellow-button
i think that there is a difference between love and lust.
and i don't believe that love is when you ache after someone when they're gone
(im sorry, don't mean to offend, just my opinion)
if it's so that loveis when you ache after someone, then i must love everyone. i must love my friends, because i ache for them when i haven't seen them in a long time. i must love my cat, because i ache after her when i haven't seen her in a long time
and this doesn't make me a weirdo who loves everyone.
everyone aches after something/someone that they want.

now, for lust.
i personally don't believe that teenagers are capable of love. i know that there are those teen love stories, yes it can happen, but i don't believe that it can happen for me, i'm too young.
i have said "iloveyou" to boyfriends, but that was because i didn't know what else to say, and they always said "i love you" first.
so i know i may be being a hypocrite here, and sorry.

i also hate the people who say i love you just because they can.
but i think that we have to get used to the fact that love is overrated, and that everyone has their own definition and opinion of what love is.
Galahad
okay i'm putting in my 2 cents worth okay. I have three forms of 'Love' there is Love, as in close freinds. I love my really close freinds. theres Love, as in family. You have to love ur Family. And finaly theres In Love. This is the strongest. i dont say this often. When i'm in love with somebody i love them with all my heart. I've only been inlove with 2 people. Thats the way i see it. Anyway...

As for lust. That is the physical desire. People who want people for the there looks.
Lily
I dont think you can truly love someone without them loving you back
I have friends who go ON AND ON about how they love a guy
When they havent even spoken to him..
And like they seriously think they are "In love" with him.
It annoys me so badly...
How can you be in love with someone when they havent spoken to you.
And how can you truly be in love when the person doesnt feel the same way...
I cant seem to explain what I mean very well
Does anyone else see where im coming from?
Galahad
I dont think thats truely in love. Not the way i see it. In fact i'd say that was lust coz they dont know if they'd love him. They haven't spoken to him. Its purly physical. Not offence to your freinds but thats just my thoughts.

As for loving somebody who dosen't love u back. It dose happen. Its like when you hate somebody and they dont hate you. Or any other emotion.
lozinabox
QUOTE (Galahad @ Apr 26 2007, 02:53 PM) *
okay i'm putting in my 2 cents worth okay. I have three forms of 'Love' there is Love, as in close freinds. I love my really close freinds. theres Love, as in family. You have to love ur Family. And finaly theres In Love. This is the strongest. i dont say this often. When i'm in love with somebody i love them with all my heart. I've only been inlove with 2 people. Thats the way i see it. Anyway...

As for lust. That is the physical desire. People who want people for the there looks.



or there is those who have lust because of their desperation for sexual acts....

QUOTE (Lily @ Apr 26 2007, 03:58 PM) *
I dont think you can truly love someone without them loving you back
I have friends who go ON AND ON about how they love a guy
When they havent even spoken to him..
And like they seriously think they are "In love" with him.
It annoys me so badly...
How can you be in love with someone when they havent spoken to you.
And how can you truly be in love when the person doesnt feel the same way...
I cant seem to explain what I mean very well
Does anyone else see where im coming from?



QUOTE (Galahad @ Apr 26 2007, 04:28 PM) *
I dont think thats truely in love. Not the way i see it. In fact i'd say that was lust coz they dont know if they'd love him. They haven't spoken to him. Its purly physical. Not offence to your freinds but thats just my thoughts.

As for loving somebody who dosen't love u back. It dose happen. Its like when you hate somebody and they dont hate you. Or any other emotion.



i wouldnt call it lust really... i think id call it immaturity as well. it sounds to me that they havent matured enough to understand what love really means to them.
kiki
QUOTE (Galahad @ Apr 26 2007, 03:53 PM) *
okay i'm putting in my 2 cents worth okay. I have three forms of 'Love' there is Love, as in close freinds. I love my really close freinds. theres Love, as in family. You have to love ur Family. And finaly theres In Love. This is the strongest. i dont say this often. When i'm in love with somebody i love them with all my heart. I've only been inlove with 2 people. Thats the way i see it. Anyway...

As for lust. That is the physical desire. People who want people for the there looks.




ok this may be pedantic, maybe even facetious but there are a few little things u said i had to pick at.

First of all... you said being "In love" is the strongest love. That is an outright lie, nothing can alter unconditional love. Your parents could hit you and neglect you to hell, you can send them to prison or shoot them dead - you still love them, however twisted and warped this love might be, it's an untouchable love. As for love for your friends, if you don't follow the 'bros before hoes' rule, personally I don't think you're worth knowing. No matter how much you are in love with someone, they should not intentionally or unintentionally take over your life and take precedent over your friends. Once the love is gone, who do you have then? Not your friends because you destroyed that love by neglecting it.

It's possibly quite rude of me to make the following assumptions, and it is of course hugely presumptious so I'll say it in a delicate way. if i remember reading your introduction I figure you're not that old, and more than likely still in your teen years. Yet, you have been in love with two people? Is it possible that it wasn't love, just the strongest you've felt yet? Because love twice in one lifetime is rare enough as it is, let alone as a teenager.

And finally to be consistent with my picky and pessimistic mood... lust being a physical desire, those who want people for there looks. Buddy, that's not lust, thats superficiality. Lust is more than just being attracted to someones outward looks, it's being drawn to their personality, their charisma... it's also a more sexual orientated term. It's more than wanting someone for their looks, but its not wanting someone for them at the same time. You want to get in the sack with them, for whatever reasons it is, lust is a sexual desire that has more push power than just looks.

For those of you who think I'm being a skeptical asshole, well I am. But I do believe in love, I believe love in the form of intimate relationships is rare and does not happen for everyone, and will not happen for everyone. However, many people will continue to their lives behind a facade of so-called love when their love fosters hate and repulsion. Love is glorified by books, movies, - everything. Everyone thinks they will fall in love, the sad reality is - many of us won't because it is that rare. I also believe that love grows, it isn't there. You can't be in a relationship for a month and go bang, wow I love you. I believe there are stages before love actually happens, and I believe is long-term effort that requires committment, effort and determination...hence why love is rare, too many people are quick to accept what they have rather than to take it another step.

One more thing, I believe there are more than three types of love - there are about 100! I don't even believe the three listed are the main types tongue.gif
bobo
MONGAMY IS DED!!
READ THE EHTICAL SLUT!!

FUK WHO DOESNT HAV SEXUUAL FEELINGS $4 OTHERS...BEING WI ONE PERSOSON IN TH SAME HOUSE...IS JUST BORING AND [b]DUMB!!
BIGTIME!!



LIVE!!

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HAVE A LIFE!!
Fedora.Pirate
Wow, I think that's the most intelligent, sensible and coherent thing bobo's said.

Anyway kiki I agree entirely with your post. I just want to clarify that I do agree with what you said about the three types of love but I can also see where Galahad's coming from. While I love my parents, they're awesome and I owe them so much, I don't particularly fancy being around them much nor do I miss them terribly when they're not around. Similar story with my friends.
So while I'll stick by them pretty much in the order you listed (Family - Really Close Friends - Love interest - Other friends). That is not necessarily the order in which I chose to spend time with, nor the order of who I spend more time thinking about.
kiki
All in all it's what I meant pirate, when dealing with people that close the amount of time you spend with them is irrelevant, but sticking by them is what's important. That's what I was getting at anyway...as for you Bobo... it's fun and games until the game isn't fun.
bobo
as I said b4 the ETHICAL SLUT is essential readiding more thn once...

evil plse dont edit me...
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prostitot
Another thing that annoys me -
when people try to judge the love of another person towards somebody else.
That's just wrong. Tut.
If someone says they love somebody else, then who the fuck is someone else to question it?
Relationships are a two-person thing. The feelings within it are felt by those two people, and those two people only.
THERE IS NO THIRD PARTY INVOLVED!

So he doesn't call her every day... So she doesn't have a picture of him in her room... So he doesn't pay for her all the time... So she doesn't write his name all over her books...

Everyone loves differently, n0? Why try and judge it?

And in relation to this third party business - people who like somebody, and then go to somebody else, tell them everything, and try to get this third party to help them score. Errrr - IDIOT!!!
Ultimately, a person should like you for who you are - not what their friend told you to be. Duh. If you've got feelings for someone, wouldn't it make more sense to act yourself, and if they accept it, then that's a whole lot better than you being somebody you're not because it's what somebody else told you to be, and then have to continue pretending?

Pretending is not love! And for the people who say that "pretending shows devotion" - FUCK YOU!
Normal people call it lying.


RAWR.
Fedora.Pirate
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lozinabox
haha...

i love study periods... esp the ones where i can listen on girls' conversations giving one of the girls involved advice on how to deal with the boyfriend that isnt acting the way they like them to..

the funniest bit is where they try to predict their behaviour eg:

"do this (insert crap) because he will react to it by doing.... blah blah blah. thats how he will respond to your message/crap. however you dont want to do this because he will do ..... and you dont want that. if he does this get rid of him hes not worth it..."

twits... like trying to predict what the 5th number will be that will be pulled out for tatslotto.
ThatWasMyKil
wow this is deep and i am in no way the right mood to give a good comment so imma just say....love is misunderstood i dont think any one can say what love means there for making it hard to say im in love...if that makes any sense
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